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Re: Intro Physics Sequence



We just recently shifted our sequence to Spring/Fall because many of our
incoming freshman weren't ready to take Calculus in the Fall. Now they
take the Pre-calculus course and take Calculus with Physics I in the
Spring.

We also instituted a "pre-physics" course but not necessarily to address
conceptual mastery. Rather, we felt that it was important to get the
engineers and physics majors into a "engineering/physics" course their
first semester (rather than wait a semester). I believe our first course
is heavy on group design (like buidling bridges, etc.).

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| Robert Cohen Department of Physics |
| East Stroudsburg University |
| bbq@esu.edu East Stroudsburg, PA 18301 |
| http://www.esu.edu/~bbq/ (570) 422-3428 |
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On Mon, 6 Nov 2000, Tim Folkerts wrote:

In our department we are tossing around the idea of revamping our intro
sequence and I thought I'd see what all you "experts" out there thought -
perhaps some of you already have the proposed plan. (We're a 5000 student,
5 faculty midwestern state university, graduating ~4/yr in physics and
transferring ~6/yr in 3/2 or 2/2 pre-engineering.)

Currently we have a fairly traditional Phys I/II freshman year concurrent
with Calc I/II. The second year we cover modern physics in a semester and
then move on to the upper level electives.

The alternative is to delay Phys I until spring semester. Instead, we
would have a 2-3 hr course on the "Great Ideas of Physics" using something
like Alan Lightman's book. This would be supplemented by a 1-2 hr "Intro
to Engineering" course (already on the books).

Perceived Advantages:
*improved calculus skill when entering physics class
* building a conceptual framework for later courses.
* broading the intro to engineering course (currently pushed only toward
define pre-engineers and taught in the evening)
* students outside physics could take the "Great Ideas" course, where they
would never take Phys I

Perceived Problems:
* Tougher to complete 2/2 transfer requirements in just two years.
* Upper level electives more bunched at the end
* What to drop to keep the total hours about the same
* faculty time to redo the schedule/shuffle paper/ etc.

Comments? Suggestions? Improvements?


Tim Folkerts
Fort Hays State University
Hays, KS