Chronology Current Month Current Thread Current Date
[Year List] [Month List (current year)] [Date Index] [Thread Index] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Date Prev] [Date Next]

Re: (d/dt) ACCELERATION



At 06:22 AM 10/12/00 -0400, David Bowman wrote:
This gravitational radiation formula for the radiant power P is:

P = (1/5)*(G/c^5)* tr(d^3q_i_j/dt^3) [1]

1a) That doesn't pass the dimensional-analysis test.
1b) It doesn't express the following "product" operation:

The trace tr is over the average of the matrix product of the tensor with
itself.

2) I think you need to take the time derivatives before taking that product.

Here d^3q_i_j/dt^3 is the third time derivative of the traceless mass
quadrupole tensor q_i_j.

3) Uhhh, if it's traceless, why are we taking its trace in equation [1]?

======================

How about this:

P = (1/5) (G/c^5) average([ (d/dt)^3 Itick ]^2) [2]

where Itick would be typeset as an I with an overstrike tick-mark, and
represents the "reduced quadrupole moment":

Itick_j_k := I_j_k - (1/3) delta_j_k trace(I)

and where I is just the ordinary second moment of the mass
distribution. Reference: Misner, Thorne, Wheeler equations 36.1 and 36.3.

The constants G and c are Newton's gravitational constant and the speed
limit of causation respectively.

Speed limit of causation. I like that. I wonder if it will catch on.

... Similarly, a uniformly accelerated massive
particle in an otherwise empty spacetime doesn't emit gravitational
radiation in GR since its motion can be transformed away to a comoving
frame for which the external gravitational field vanishes.

4) That's hauntingly close to the right explanation, but not quite there.

4a) A uniformly-accelerated particle has a position that goes like t^2,
hence a quadrupole moment that goes like t^4. This is not entirely
annihilated by the jerk operator (d/dt)^3. So equation [2] says that a
uniformly-accelerated particle can radiate ... assuming equation [2]
applies; see item (4c) below.

In this frame there is no gravitational radiation, so there is not any
such radiation in any other frame either. This is why the jerk rate is so
important in inducing gravitational radiation for massive particles.

A better argument is to say that the jerk operator is necessary in equation
[2] to ensure that two masses moving past each other in uniform
_un_accelerated motion do not radiate. Such motion has a position that
goes like t and a quadrupole moment that goes like t^2, which is entirely
annihilated by the jerk operator and not by any lower-order derivative.

Note that the analogy to electromagnetic radiation is misleading in some
ways:
-- The EM source term is the dipole moment, which is linear in the
coordinates, but the gravitational source term is the quadrupole moment,
which is nonlinear in the coordinates.
-- In EM, we usually assume overall charge neutrality. This muddies the
equivalence principles, since if we are calculating the radiation from a
negatively-charged object, we get to ask if it is moving (or accelerating)
relative the the corresponding positive charges.

[again]
... a uniformly accelerated massive
particle in an otherwise empty spacetime doesn't emit gravitational
radiation in GR since its motion can be transformed away to a comoving
frame for which the external gravitational field vanishes.

4b) "Comoving" isn't the right word. One would need a "co-accelerating"
frame to make that argument work. Consider the contrast:
-- Galileo's principle of equivalence says we are always free to
transform to a comoving frame of our choice, and the physics is unchanged.
-- We are not quite so free to transform to a co-accelerating frame of
our choice. The transformation produces a gravitational field in the new
frame.

It's not clear that equation [2] is valid in an accelerated frame (or the
equivalent gravitating frame). The corresponding argument about
co-accelerated frames applied to the EM case would predict zero Bremsstrahlung.

4c) It is 100% clear that equation [2] is _not_ valid for a uniformly
accelerated particle. The equation was derived under the assumption of a
closed system with "internal" motions. To see that it is not valid, let
the particle have a velocity as well as an acceleration: r = vt + .5 a t^2
and show that the amount of radiation depends on velocity -- clearly a no-no.

I haven't worked out the details, but my intuition is that there _can_ be
such a thing as gravitational Bremsstrahlung, i.e. an accelerated particle
_can_ radiate... and somebody in a co-accelerated reference frame should
come to the same conclusion.

This is what I was referring to in my earlier post when I opined that the
laws of gravitational radiation limit our ability to apply a large
acceleration to a particle.

OTOH I said the laws don't clearly forbid such accelerations. I was
thinking it may be possible to arrange that Itick is zero (perhaps by
accelerating something else in the opposite direction to compensate). But
this is not the general case.

Thus it seems that whatever reasoning that would forbid a charged
particle from undergoing an infinite acceleration because of its emitted
EM radiation would also seem to apply to any localized distribution of
mass trying to undergo an infinite jerk among its parts with the only
difference being that the mass emits gravitational radiation and the
charged particle emits EM radiation instead.

I don't buy that. I think it doesn't account for the fact that Itick is
nonlinear in the coordinates, as mentioned above.