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Re: magnetic lines like these



If you look at pictures of the sun's 'surface', you'll see giant arches of
glowing gasses. These arches are loops of magnetic flux. Sometimes, such an
arch can 'pinch-off', forming a CLOSED loop of B flux with the plasma
flowing around it, maintaining the flux. Perhaps these structures can
travel 100AU???

At 11:30 AM -0400 5/12/98, LUDWIK KOWALSKI wrote:
"As a plasma moves through a magnetic field, the charged particles are
trapped in spiral paths along the magnetic field lines. [OK so far.]
The plasma becomes bound to the magnetic field. At the same time the
plasma captures the magnetic field and holds it within the plasma. Once
an organized flow of charged particles has been set up, it generates its
own magnetic field (as does an electromagnet). This field from the moving
particles maintains the magnetic field that first caused the current flow=
=2E
So the original field is reinforced. Then if a plasma moves in bulk, it
carries the magnetic field lines with it." (Zeilik, 1997, page 160)
.......................................................................

Chuck Britton <britton@odie.ncssm.edu> wrote:

The picture I'm visualizing here is a bundle of magnetic flux lines that
have closed into a nearly circular loop. The electric charges are spiralin=
g
around this loop, sort of around the surface of a doughnut. The magnetic
loop wraps around the hole of the doughnut and the current is always
flowing through the hole in the same direction and wrapping back along the
outer edge of the doughnut. I suppose that the charge is always either +
or always - in a given doughnut or the counter moving opposite charges
would interfere with each other???

I can visualize a nearly curcular =D2bundle of magnetic flux lines=D3. A si=
ngle-
wire rectangular loop with a large current has two short segments (one abov=
e
another, horizontally, for example)> The short segments are separated by ve=
ry
long vertical segments. The current in vertical segments flows in opposite
directions and their combined magnetic field is nearly zero everywhere. Sho=
rt
segments, on the other hand, are so far away that their fields do not cance=
l.
The field near each short segment is a nearly curcular =D2bundle of magneti=
c
flux lines=D3.And I can imagine electons spiraling around a circular bundle=
of
such lines. A toroidal current of electrons, in a vacuum, if you wish.

But what does this have to do with solar wind? Where are the particles whic=
h
take the magnetic field from a region near a source (doughnut) to a region
very far away from the source? High speed electrons passing near the
doughnut will travers the field, bending a little, and will eventually trav=
el
along straight lines at constant velocities. The magnetic field associated
with their motion has nothing to do with the magnetic field near the
daughnut. And in the case of the macroscopically neutral solar wind (+ and =
-
particles ejected from the Sun with the same mean speed) the net field of
escaping particle must be zero. What does Zeilik mean by saying =D2this fie=
ld
from the moving particles maintains the magnetic field that first caused t=
he
current flow=D3? Something is not right with this explanation, I think, (o=
r
with my physics).
Ludwik Kowalski


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